Gal Aharonov, MD - Episode 4 Transcript

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Raquel Baldelomar

Hi, my name is Raquel Baldelomar, and welcome to the Mega Podcast where I speak with high achievers on how they fulfill their professional dreams while maintaining balance throughout their lives. Today I am speaking with Dr. Gal Aronoff, a world-leading double board certified facial plastic and cosmetic surgeon. His meticulous attention to detail, customized personal care and expert surgical skills, have provided his patients with a natural rejuvenated appearance. He specializes in facial plastic surgery to create balance youthfulness and beauty, while maintaining an absolutely natural result. Dr. Gaul was born in Israel and raised in Los Angeles. He attended UCLA before going to Chicago Medical School. From there, he returned to LA to train in general surgery at ucla, and then moved to Richmond, Virginia to continue his training and head and neck surgery and facial plastic surgery at the Medical College of Virginia. He then performed a highly competitive accredited fellowship in facial plastic and reconstructive surgery, one of only 30 fellowship positions in the world. Today, he has a private practice in Beverly Hills and is also a teaching instructor at the University of Southern California. Privately, he lives a modest and simple life. He believes in the dissociation for materialism, feeling that happiness should not be driven by material wealth, but by gratitude and humility between running his private practice. Dr. Ga is married with two kids and expecting a third on the way. Ga, welcome to the Mega podcast.

00:01:32

Gal Aharonov, MD

Hi. Oof. That intro. Oh, I gotta rewrite my bio, huh?

00:01:37

Raquel Baldelomar

. What? Are you gonna rewrite it? Make it, rewrite it after you

00:01:39

Raquel Baldelomar

Have

00:01:39

Gal Aharonov, MD

Kids a little faster, right? It's like, Ooh, that reads long.

00:01:43

Raquel Baldelomar

It does read long. But it did you, you've done all this.

00:01:47

Gal Aharonov, MD

I mean, I guess

00:01:47

Raquel Baldelomar

Especially the medical school part. I, I have so many friends who went to medical school and they talk about how they got burned out, and it's, it, I know it was a hard process.

00:01:58

Gal Aharonov, MD

I mean, look, listen, anything in life could be hard, right? It's how we do. In hindsight, actually, med school was probably the easiest part, really. So it's all how you look at it really. That's interesting. Think about, a lot of times in the moment something seems kind of hard, and then we look back at it and we're like, oh, why was I so stressed about that? That wasn't too bad.

00:02:17

Raquel Baldelomar

So medical school is easy for you,

00:02:19

Gal Aharonov, MD

? No, I wouldn't say it's easy, but in hindsight you're like, well, I guess it wasn't like the worst.

00:02:25

Raquel Baldelomar

I guess there's a, it's perspective. There are harder things that maybe other, and we'll get to that other, the harder things.

00:02:30

Gal Aharonov, MD

Yeah. It's all perspective. Right? And then hard in what way. Right. I mean, sometimes it's like you're doing something hard, but you're not really responsible for anything. And that's very different. Having responsibility is sometimes just as hard as having to do the hard part. Right. As you, I'm sure you know.

00:02:47

Raquel Baldelomar

Right? No, absolutely. What made you choose plastic surgery?

00:02:53

Gal Aharonov, MD

Seriously?

00:02:54

Raquel Baldelomar

No, not lifestyle,

00:02:56

Gal Aharonov, MD

Really. Yeah. At first when I chose it, because I mean, I didn't choose it till later. And when you're doing your residency, you're doing your internship and you're working so hard, and then you're looking at people that are done on the other side. And I remember one, I thought, I want to do neurosurgery. And then I'm like in the hospital at three in the morning and there's like some 60 something year old neurosurgeon there working. And I'm like, what do you, is this the life? I'm like, I'm not gonna live that that way. So initially it was to give me a sense of control, I think. Like people that are working really hard, their desires to somehow have control mm-hmm. or being control. So I think in the moment it was like, all right, well, how can I control my life? I could, plastic surgery can give me a lot of other aspects of control. Right. That maybe I wouldn't have had in other.

00:03:49

Raquel Baldelomar

Right. Well, I've also seen how in just the medical world, so many doctors are kind of getting just in into the whole hospital system. I mean, they're not, they, they're not private. They're they're own bosses anymore.

00:04:04

Gal Aharonov, MD

You know what's funny, even in plastic surgery now, there's people, there's private equity firms that are buying out plastic surgeons, uh, practices and then streamlining it and just paying out, buying out the surgeon. And really the surgeon will still continue to work as an employee. Isn't that funny?

00:04:21

Raquel Baldelomar

That is crazy. Yeah. That is crazy that they're doing that. So even in plastic surgery, it's changing. Mm-hmm. , how has the industry of pla of plastic surgery changed, would you say? Like, since you started? Well,

00:04:32

Gal Aharonov, MD

I, I think when you are, when people look at plastic surgery, they're really looking at the cosmetic industry. They're looking at like the actual aesthetic part of it, not plastic surgery in general, which would encamp encompass also reconstructive things and things like that. So I think people kind of be like, all right, cosmetic surgery. Um, it's accessibility. I think it's probably more accessible now than it's ever been. Mm-hmm. think about it. But 20 years ago if you, even if you knew something existed, how would you find a surgeon to perform it? Right.

00:05:11

Raquel Baldelomar

Right. And it's also just not everything's about surgery anymore.

00:05:15

Gal Aharonov, MD

Yeah. You got the nonsurgical things, you got like, and, and now it's not even just doctors that are doing stuff. Right. You got nurses, you got nurse practitioners, PAs, uh, everyone's getting into it. So,

00:05:28

Raquel Baldelomar

And that's a dangerous part. I mean, that's, that's where it's, I think, a slippery slope when, I

00:05:33

Gal Aharonov, MD

Don't know, like, is it, I mean, you could, I think calling things dangerous is sometimes protectionism, you know, as you're trying to protect the field in one way or another. Mm-hmm. and the people that have control, they call it dangerous, maybe just as a power grab,

00:05:48

Raquel Baldelomar

But it is also the training. I mean, and, and, um, the training. And I think your aesthetic of, of how you look at something, how you look to solve a problem. I mean, I, there's a reason I think people come to you from all over the world. And, and to give a little bit of backstory to our viewers, about 13 years ago, I was living in Phoenix for many years. I had the droopy eyelid and it was getting worse and worse where my, like one eyelid was just drier than the other. And I went online and I was like, who is a doctor that's known to just help fix I droopy eyelids? And you were recognized by multiple online platforms as like the doctor to go for I, you know, anything related to eye areas.

00:06:34

Gal Aharonov, MD

You know, what's my, if you would've searched for that maybe five to 10 years before that, you would've never been able to find it. Cuz there was no information of of the type Right. At the time. So yeah. Accessibility, you found it, you're able to just go on your computer and search for something and find someone who can do it. So again, that's what's changed. That's a big thing. And that's become easier and easier where people now don't even have to go and do a search. They'll get targeted. They're on social media or whatever. They might just get targeted with procedures and they're like, oh, I don't know. That could, that, we could do that. Uh, so, so accessibility and streamlining is probably the biggest changes.

00:07:16

Raquel Baldelomar

You have pioneered surgeries, uh, cosmetic surgeries like dimple surgery and forehead reduction surgery and a lot of different, I mean, just different kinds of surgery that just wasn't even something that was standard before.

00:07:30

Gal Aharonov, MD

And, and again, so it's how do you, it was stuff that, that was around before mm-hmm. , it was just complicated and hard to do. And the people that were doing at the time just made a mountain out of a mall hill. So how do you, how do you make something popular? You gotta make it easy. So you, you have to take something and make it really simple and streamlined and, uh, it's, it's the Amazon effect. How do you take something and just streamline it so someone can just click on something at the greatest of ease and get it a couple of days later? That's,

00:08:04

Raquel Baldelomar

Is, is that what you wanna do for your patients, is make it really easy for them to come and get surgery?

00:08:09

Gal Aharonov, MD

? Uh, I mean, if you think about the decision to change something or to fly somewhere, just have something done. I mean, that's a big decision. Mm-hmm. . So that's not my decision. I'm not influencing that. I'm saying, look, if if someone's going to decide to do something, how do you then make it as easy as possible for them?

00:08:30

Raquel Baldelomar

But you all, I think what also makes you such a great plastic surgeon is that you actually, you will actually turn people away. You've turned me away when I, you know, when I, when I wanted to come in for fillers and I said, and you know, you say to, you don't need it. You don't need it. And, and, um, I and I, you know, read reviews, there was like a negative review that someone flew from New York to come see you, and then you didn't give them a, a, you didn't give them a facelift and they wrote a negative review. And then you had a lot of people saying, you know, this is why we love Dr. Gahl is that he actually, he's not driven by money in the sense. Like, he doesn't wanna just give you whatever you want. He gives you what he thinks you need. And I really respect that because I think a lot of the industry of itself, especially other plastic surgeons, they will almost just use the fear and insecurity you have about your looks and use that to try to get something out of you.

00:09:22

Gal Aharonov, MD

You could say that about probably every industry, you could say that about plumbers. You can say that about, you know, lawyers, you could even say that about your hairdresser. You might not need highlights or it might not benefit you, and they might talk you into it. So it's probably every industry works to that extent. Some, you know, one way or another,

00:09:44

Raquel Baldelomar

Every industry has those people that actually

00:09:46

Gal Aharonov, MD

Sure. I think that's just human nature, right? I mean, human nature is, it's a balance of sometimes, you know, desire, right? Desire, fear, things like that. And they drive us. We think we want something, we think we want a certain lifestyle. And well, how do we need, how do we accomplish it? What's gonna be in the way of that?

00:10:06

Raquel Baldelomar

What do you consider a, an aesthetic superior result in your work?

00:10:13

Gal Aharonov, MD

Look, it's all a matter of taste. Everything's a matter of taste. It's art. Think about it. I'm like, I don't know. I'm sure there's people who think, who think Michelangelo's work was crap, right? Especially at the time, you know, we weren't there. Who knows? Maybe half of Italy thought it was just nonsense what he was doing. And here we are. So, so, you know, does it, who, who's to say? But

00:10:37

Raquel Baldelomar

This is also where I think taste and training really help is that some people, there's a lot of PAs where there's people in who are coming up who's, who's who are, can do injections, can do things, you know, more cosmetic procedures that don't necessarily have the taste

00:10:56

Gal Aharonov, MD

That, but some do. Some, some do. Some have better taste than the best trained plastic surgeons in the world. Mm-hmm. . So just because you went to some training and did studied a bunch of stuff, doesn't make you like really have great taste. Think about it. You could be the world's greatest, most heavily trained interior decorator architect. And some people might be like, Hmm, I don't know. I don't like that. So at the end of the day, it's taste. And people ask me sometimes they'll ask me, ah, who do you, who do you recommend for such and such procedure? I'm like, man, I don't know what your taste is. I can't recommend because it's like recommending a photographer to do photo shoot.

00:11:37

Raquel Baldelomar

Well, this is where I think having a surgeon who can, who is aligned with your taste is really important. I think that's, I

00:11:47

Gal Aharonov, MD

Don't even say surgeon. Uh, you should just, in life, we should just kind of hopefully

00:11:52

Raquel Baldelomar

Say a, uh, align,

00:11:53

Gal Aharonov, MD

Align, align ourselves, ourselves with, with people that resonate with us. Yeah. Right. And I mean, with life experience, we hopefully become better at being able to, to at least sense people's kind of motives.

00:12:10

Raquel Baldelomar

There is, this whole podcast is about balance. There's, you know, I think it's so important to have balance in life and everything you do, but I also think there's an element of balance and beauty. And what do you think of where does balance and beauty play a role in, in how, and what tastes and what good taste and like how to be beautiful. I think it, there's an element of balance in it, and I don't exactly know what that is. I just know, I feel like well, that's, that's a balanced look.

00:12:43

Gal Aharonov, MD

Yeah. I, I I think throughout the years people have tried to put some math, mathematical equations and what that means, and Oh, this should be this ratio and that should be that ratio. And, and maybe it works sometimes, but I'm sure it's the same. Like I said, in many other fields, you could try to generalize things. If we're gonna equate this to interior design, be like, well, generally you need a couch and you need a chair right there. And that's the general thing. It might not apply to every situation. And what looks good at the end is a lot of it is a matter of taste. It's a matter of our environment, what we grew up around. Like for example, if you hypothetically grew up around, oh, I've read an interesting thing where, you know, in our country, a lot of people d desire blue eyes, right? It's a desirable thing. But in places where a lot of people have blue eyes, I think, like, where was it, Denmark or Sweden, whatever, one of those, one of those countries that to me sound all the same. mm-hmm. where everyone has blue eyes, they actually desire darker eyes. Right. So interesting. So they would want their offspring to have darker eyes. And so our environment plays a big role too. Yeah. Our culture does. And I'm sure what country we lived in or who we surrounded ourselves with, or who our best friend was growing up,

00:14:08

Raquel Baldelomar

Do you think the, you grew up in Israel and do you think the, the standard of beauty in Israel, for example, is different than the standard of beauty in la?

00:14:18

Gal Aharonov, MD

I mean, look, I was only eight when we moved here, but

00:14:21

Raquel Baldelomar

It's, but that's those formative years.

00:14:23

Gal Aharonov, MD

Um, okay. Yeah. I mean, I don't think back then it was even on my radar. Yeah. You know, as Ahuh is it, it's funny because kids are affected by beauty. It's very, you see it in 'em. I, now that I have kids, even my little, not even three year old, you can kind of see how he's kind of attracted to certain things mm-hmm. and looks at certain people a certain way. And so it's funny, there's something innate in us and how, how did it affect me? I don't know. It's hard for me to recall, but I'm sure like, I'm sure, you know, studies have shown that even kids like to look at attractive people more so than not as attractive people.

00:15:02

Raquel Baldelomar

I remember you telling me how you went to Peru and how in Peru people just looked differently than they looked here in la. And it just made me realize, like, I think that the standard of just, we kind of are, are, we have this normalization that everyone, la needs to look this certain way because it's, there's so much pressure on beauty and maintaining, you know, your youth, but then you go to other countries and sometimes third world countries and it's like, people just look very different.

00:15:31

Gal Aharonov, MD

Oh yeah. But come on, you can't even equate access. It is just the whole, you know, idle hands. Do the devil's work. Right. , if you're, if you're busy really just trying to survive and put, you know, provide food for your children and shelter, I don't think you're gonna care about the size of your lips,

00:15:55

Raquel Baldelomar

But maybe not, maybe not totally third world. But let's say like Israel, I mean, do you think

00:16:00

Gal Aharonov, MD

That, oh, this stuff is so popular everywhere I I, in Israel, all the Middle East. I mean, pretty much every country, especially now because of accessibility. Yeah. You could argue that back in the day, living in LA was really different than living anywhere else. And I think those differences have moderated over time, uh, where, because everyone could have access to these treatments or at least see what's available. Mm-hmm. , it kind of makes it a lot more, more takes those, those, uh, inequalities out.

00:16:36

Raquel Baldelomar

Right. Well, I also think social media has really almost just made that more accessible. At least the, the striving for beauty, you know, has made that more accessible,

00:16:46

Gal Aharonov, MD

Striving for everything. Right. Right. I mean, it's not even just beauty striving for certain lifestyle, for having certain things for the way that we live. Oh, I want to be that person who takes, who flies all over the world all the time. Or I want to have this kind of car live in this kind of house. I mean, where's the, where's the end in? There's no end in sight.

00:17:09

Raquel Baldelomar

Well, even with the beau focusing on beauty, like, one of the things I've seen that's been very disturbing is just how there's all these Instagram filters now where you can do beauty augmentation by changing the face of your sh you know, the, the whole, your shape of your face changing your eye color, changing your hair. I mean, changing your total appearance. I'm sure you've even had, uh, patience come to you and sh you know, with pictures of their filtered selves and say, I wanna look like that. So it creates this very warped sense of just what we should look like. And

00:17:43

Gal Aharonov, MD

It's so warped. And it's funny cuz every , every time someone brings this up, cuz it's come cuz people come and they'll, they'll show me the app Uhhuh , and they'll, they'll make these modifications like right in front of me. Uh, and yeah, you could put these filters on that are ridiculous. I mean, I was looking at this one video where there's a filter that makes you look like you got these skinny little eyebrows, . And, and this girl was pretending to plug her boyfriend's eyebrows, Uhhuh pretending and then showed him what he looked like with the filtering. That's what you're gonna look out . Well, he thought that that's what he looked like. . . So what'd you do to my eyebrows?

00:18:20

Raquel Baldelomar

? Yeah. It's really amazing. But people of the fact that they wanted to come and say, I wanna look like this. I mean, change their whole, like their whole face and their eye colors and just, I mean, it's pretty crazy how that's actually, so

00:18:32

Gal Aharonov, MD

Why is it crazy? Like why, why do we think that it's crazy? I mean, yes, it's crazy, but we can't, we can't think that it's crazy that we are where we are.

00:18:43

Raquel Baldelomar

Do you think we always just kind of have that desire to change ourselves? And now this is,

00:18:47

Gal Aharonov, MD

This was available 10,000, this is what I wanted to years ago. People would've been doing it back then. There's, there's no difference.

00:18:55

Raquel Baldelomar

So social media just made it available. Basically it's

00:18:57

Gal Aharonov, MD

Accessibility. Accessibility. And it's also, so it's accessibility and making the procedures safe and easy. Mm-hmm. . All right. Bec before we even had anesthesia, right, which is what ether, right before there was ether, when we're knocking people out with ether, you couldn't just be do random surgery, let alone elective surgery. So, uh, the, the rise of anesthesia, safe anesthesia, that was one big factor to making surgery a lot more accessible. And then, you know, modifications over the years of making procedures just safe and effective.

00:19:35

Raquel Baldelomar

So it really is like about just tapping into our primal desire to be beautiful. I mean, to, to, I think that's, I mean,

00:19:43

Gal Aharonov, MD

I don't know if it's beautiful as much as being, uh, safe. Right? So it's like it's safe. Yeah. Beauty translates to safety if you really think about it.

00:19:54

Raquel Baldelomar

Is it safety or is it power?

00:19:55

Gal Aharonov, MD

Well, I mean, it all comes back to safety. If you have power, if you have beauty, then hopefully you're gonna be more safe and your offsprings might be more safe. Cuz now you could protect them with all your power and wealth and whatever. So at the end it is safety, right? People just want to be safe mm-hmm. . And it was, it's one way of achieving it. Beauty's power, power translates into safety.

00:20:21

Raquel Baldelomar

It's been shown that people who are more attractive get more jobs. They are considered more trustworthy, they have more mates. Uh, for me it's been also many ways about confidence. You know, if I can just feel attractive, um, it's that it gives me the confidence

00:20:39

Gal Aharonov, MD

That, yeah, think, think of this. It's all, think of all the people out there that have confidence and they might not be, quote unquote aesthetically up to standards. And yet they have the confidence and they're happy and they're, they're doing great in life. And the flip side, sometimes look at my wife who I think is beautiful, and I'm like, oh my God. Like she has no clue how pretty she is. And she's always, you know, she might be down on herself at times, you know, especially, you know, popping out a third child in three years, right? I mean, oh that doesn't feel great. Oh, that's, and, and, uh, but yeah, it's a, what gives us that? Sometimes it's a, it's a placebo effect almost, right? Someone might come in, they might get something done, they might not even look any different yet they now feel more powerful and feel better. And is it so bad? I guess if that's the only effect, I don't know.

00:21:37

Raquel Baldelomar

So you are have two kids and a third is on the way. Congratulations.

00:21:43

Gal Aharonov, MD

Thanks. Yeah. Home stretch on this third one. ,

00:21:46

Raquel Baldelomar

When were you ready to start a family?

00:21:50

Gal Aharonov, MD

I mean, when's anyone ready? Right?

00:21:52

Raquel Baldelomar

You weren't ready. It just was,

00:21:54

Gal Aharonov, MD

It's ideas of readiness. I mean, even when you first have a child and comes out and you love that child, but you don't really love that child, you love the thought of having a child. It's a culmination of getting to a point that you now love this, this thing that you don't really love it yet you bar you just met it. Mm-hmm. , you love the whole idea of the child. And then of course you've fall in love with the child later, you hope, right? Or, or not. But

00:22:23

Raquel Baldelomar

What does fatherhood now mean to you now that you have two children, a third on the way? What his fatherhood mean

00:22:29

Gal Aharonov, MD

To you? Oh man. It's honestly, for me personally, it's so life changing and so challenging. It's challenging as a, you know, my own personal growth, even let alone how hard it is. Trying to hopefully be the best father you can be. All right. And that's, that's a challenge cuz you can always find ways where you could hopefully be a better father.

00:22:54

Raquel Baldelomar

What values do you want to instill in your children?

00:22:57

Gal Aharonov, MD

It's hard. It's hard to even know what's important and like, cuz what we think is of value is again, our own personal experience. Uh, so yeah, we're, we're, if you think about we're just continuing our personal experience onto our kids, we're kind of giving them part of us.

00:23:20

Raquel Baldelomar

And it's also, they have such different personalities. I'm sure you've noticed your son as such different personalities. So like what you give your son that would be valuable to him could be very different than what you give your daughter.

00:23:32

Gal Aharonov, MD

And you can give him the same thing and they, they digest it totally different. And yeah. Who knows.

00:23:39

Raquel Baldelomar

How are you now working to try to prioritize your work life, your family life, your responsibilities with just to, just to be balanced so that you are giving the priority to your family and this precious time, while they're very young, you're actually spending time with ki with them, but you're also, you know, you have other

00:23:58

Gal Aharonov, MD

Responsi. I dunno if it's good, who knows? Maybe it's best for 'em if I'm not around , who

00:24:02

Raquel Baldelomar

Knows? I think that's not true. I think that's not true. They, they need, I mean, this is the time, cuz I'm telling you after like once your daughter hits 14, 15 years old, she's gonna wanna like

00:24:13

Gal Aharonov, MD

Hang out with her friends. Who knows, right? I mean, I don't know. Especially now being an older dad, it's very different. Uh, I do have the luxury of being able to spend time with them that maybe I wouldn't have had even 10, 15 years ago. So,

00:24:29

Raquel Baldelomar

So you have more time now?

00:24:30

Gal Aharonov, MD

Well, I can choose to make time. Yeah. I mean that's the thing, right? When you're talking about,

00:24:36

Raquel Baldelomar

Uh, versus when you were in medical

00:24:37

Gal Aharonov, MD

School accomplishment for example. Yeah. Yeah. I mean to everyone has a different idea of what the whole point of making money and being financially independent is, but it's all a matter of opinion. You know, one person's financial independence might be somebody else's, you know? No, that's definitely not enough. So it's, it's, it's a constant struggle, right? I mean, because I'll tell you, fatherhood is a big challenge compared to just being singled by yourself or not having kids. Because now it's, it's really not even about me anymore. I'm just a facilitator. . I'm a caretaker to hopefully pass along healthy, normal happy kids into the next generation. That's

00:25:25

Raquel Baldelomar

The goal. I mean, that is our evolutionary, I mean that we're driven evolutionary to do that.

00:25:32

Gal Aharonov, MD

I mean there's, it's so nuanced, I feel, because then you can make the argument of, okay, there's certain aspects, regardless of what you do, it could be seen as selfish or not Right? Selfless or selfish. Okay, well I want to spend time with my kids. Well, you can make the argument, well, shouldn't I just spend my time working so they're more financially secure when they're older? Okay. If I'm you, balance, it's not like you can't do it all. You gotta make choices

00:26:02

Raquel Baldelomar

And you have to almo you have to, uh, go to the pendulum of the extreme to when you're making those choices. Like when you're working, like when you're doing surgery, you don't wanna be really thinking about your children. No. You know, think so. You have to go to the pendulum of, of all of that. I mean, and, and if you're with your kids, but you're on the phone or you're, uh, trying to not really, you know, if you're, if you're mind's somewhere else, like you're not really spending time with your

00:26:29

Gal Aharonov, MD

Kids, uh, and your kids will notice it in a heartbeat. As soon as I look at that phone, like I can tell they're looking at me. Really? So, and we try, we're actually, we don't show 'em screens, no tv, any of that. So you have to hopefully lead by example so you're not just seen as a hypocrite.

00:26:47

Raquel Baldelomar

So you talk about no tv, no screens, like how old are your kids now?

00:26:51

Gal Aharonov, MD

So one's almost three. Okay. In a couple of months. One just turned one a month ago and then another one on the way in a few weeks.

00:26:59

Raquel Baldelomar

Oh my goodness. A few weeks. Yeah. That's so exciting. About three weeks. So you're not gonna have a lot of sleep sh coming soon in a few

00:27:05

Gal Aharonov, MD

Weeks. Oh man. You never know. , sometimes they sleep great and then you to go through a sleep regression or whatever and it's, you never know mm-hmm. , you never

00:27:14

Raquel Baldelomar

Know. And your wife having three kids on the way. Well it's, it's a lot of women would love to have a husband that's a plastic surgeon because anytime they need a up they can just go to, to their husband. How does the effect those, do you feel like your wife is sometimes more self-conscious because you are a plastic surgeon and you have like this critical eye? Or

00:27:35

Gal Aharonov, MD

I don't think she's more, I don't know. I mean, she's definitely, I would say just a normal woman who's hard on herself. Right? Yeah. Um, she doesn't share a lot with me. I think because she knows I, you know, don't, I wouldn't want her to be hypercritical and I, I try, I honestly, I don't look at her that way anymore. I don't look at her critically. You don't? No. I don't even notice. She might come back with different hair or whatever and

00:28:05

Raquel Baldelomar

You don't even notice.

00:28:07

Gal Aharonov, MD

No clue. , I don't look at her that way. I sh I don't think people should look at each other that way. I don't think it's healthy.

00:28:13

Raquel Baldelomar

How do you work to maintain just that intimacy and just that ti connection with your wife while all, you know, you have kids, I'm sure they take up a lot of your time. You have this private practice. How do you, what do you do to try to maintain that part of just the intimacy, that connection with your wife? That's just the two of you?

00:28:31

Gal Aharonov, MD

Well, it, it's hard cuz you could be like, okay, having kids is definitely a big thing. Right. And, uh, you hope that the kids also somehow bring you closer. Cuz now you're working with a, a teammate and you're working together to raise these kids and you hope that process also brings you closer and is intimate and it is intimate in that way. But physical intimacy obviously gets harder. You know, it depends on how the kids sleep. We used to, when, when you know the kids' sleep schedule, you at least know when you have a couple hours together. Yeah. But obviously the more kids you have when, when, especially at this point when they're young, that becomes difficult. We try, but it's hard. It's hard. And also, you know, when your wife is nine months pregnant mm-hmm. , she might not feel like she wants to be as physical at times. And sometimes she does. And you know, it's, uh, and we're, yeah, we're tired, but we, we try, I think everyone tries and everyone probably goes through different stages. Mm-hmm. . But intimacy is not just physical. It's, it's uh,

00:29:36

Raquel Baldelomar

It's emotional. It's not sexual. There's, there's even a difference between sexual intimacy and physical intimacy. Yeah. And connection and emotional and mental and intellectual intimacy.

00:29:47

Gal Aharonov, MD

So I mean, I definitely feel more connected to her now than ever. So That's good. Mm-hmm. even though maybe we don't have as much alone time.

00:29:56

Raquel Baldelomar

And how, between all of this are you managing your own self care, you know, is, you know, your, your own nutrition, your own sleep. I know that, you know, as a surgeon, you don't wanna go into surgery tired

00:30:08

Gal Aharonov, MD

. I, yeah, I look, I like everyone. I mean, I'm not, I'm certainly, I I sometimes I balloon up a little bit, a few pounds this way or I eat healthier. I don't eat as healthy. But I think over time, especially as you get a little bit older, you realize you got, we're kind of like old cars. The older we get, the more maintenance we need, the more delicate we are. And you can, recovery time, you can make the choice of being like, well I'm gonna take better care of myself with the little things, what I eat, what I put into my body. And yes, prioritizing sleep. Like I don't really drink alcohol almost ever. Uh, I certainly don't smoke. And I try to try to eat healthy. I'm not crazy, you know, crazy extreme, but

00:30:56

Raquel Baldelomar

Pretty much extreme. How much, how much sleep would you get a night, would you say?

00:31:00

Gal Aharonov, MD

So I allow myself, I, I allow myself to at least have eight hours. Do I sleep all that eight hours? No. Cuz sometimes I don't think my body needs so much, but I try to sleep somewhere between six to seven, seven and a half hours.

00:31:13

Raquel Baldelomar

Good. And what about working out? Do you exercise?

00:31:17

Gal Aharonov, MD

I do. Not as much as before really. But, uh, you know, we have a little, you know, home gym and I try, but man, I'll tell you, it's uh, when, when you're, when you don't have kids, you dream about having a home gym. , ,

00:31:32

Raquel Baldelomar

And then you have it and then you don't use it.

00:31:34

Gal Aharonov, MD

You're like, oh man, I'll do anything to just go to the gym. I wish I could go to the gym for three hours.

00:31:39

Raquel Baldelomar

Do you think though, do you, do you try to devote just your own alone time? Whether it's meditation, uh, just walking. I mean it's, cuz you, there's a lot of pressure that it's just that, that I'm sure you have and it's demands and you, you might like it, the kids, the, you know, having a family, having a practice, um, just life responsibilities. But do you take time to try to just take time for yourself or is that, is it just now, is it, is it all interrelated with just all of your other responsibilities?

00:32:14

Gal Aharonov, MD

Look alone, time is different, right? I mean, when I, before I had kids, I'd be like, oh, if someone would be like, oh man, I gotta run errands. I'm like, oh, what a bummer. Now you're like, yes. Bummer. Oh dude, that's self-care for me. Let me go run some errands. hold alone, driving in my car somewhere. I'm like, yes, traffic. I get to be stuck here for a few more minutes. So self-care could be anything. It's, it's like, well, how do we, what do we see ourself? Like how do we do something? Uh, it's funny now. I mean, I don't like to, I've never liked washing dishes or cleaning up. And I'm not saying that I do that often now, but the odd time that I'm like washing a dish, I say, I'm like, no, this is actually pretty relaxed. Then

00:33:04

Raquel Baldelomar

, it's your own meditation

00:33:05

Gal Aharonov, MD

While your own, it's your own time. So, so we could do anything could be relaxing and anything could be, could be stressful.

00:33:12

Raquel Baldelomar

Well, I think that also to me, I think to me that goes to your own like dissociation of, of, of materialism and, and just things of, you know, what causes you stress. Like, you don't really allow external things to give you a lot of stress, it seems like.

00:33:33

Gal Aharonov, MD

Listen, you can only be so non materialistic when you have a couple of kids and you live in la right? Mm-hmm. , it's all a, it's all a spectrum. I mean, you need a stroller. Yeah. I guess you can argue that you don't, you need a car,

00:33:48

Raquel Baldelomar

You need a house that, you know, has three

00:33:49

Gal Aharonov, MD

Kids. Yeah. So it's like, you can't take that to an extreme. I guess some people do, and God bless 'em. But

00:33:58

Raquel Baldelomar

What does money mean to you now? And how has, how has your concept of what money means to you changed over the years?

00:34:07

Gal Aharonov, MD

My concept of money hasn't changed much, honestly. Uh, it's always been a way to give me freedom. And for me, freedom is not having to do stuff. That's my freedom, right? Like, if I don't want to work, I don't want to have to work. If I don't want to, you know, clean the dishes, I don't have to. Uh, that to me is freedom. But even that, if you think about it, it's pretty not that evolved mm-hmm. , right? So I don't know what is, what does money have? What do you, I think we kind of maybe are a little bit different when it comes to that. Like, how do you see it?

00:34:48

Raquel Baldelomar

I mean, I've always said that money is a great servant, but a bad master. I think money gives you opportunities. It gives you, uh, choices. It solves problems, but you can't let it be the thing that guides you. And I as, and as we talked about too, like, living in LA is so expensive. It's,

00:35:08

Gal Aharonov, MD

Um, I haven't seen a strong correlation between having money and not being a slave to it. I haven't seen it. I, yeah, I see. I get to meet, in my feel, I get to meet like tons of exceptionally wealthy individuals and I don't see them, a lot of 'em, at least they're not liberated by having the amounts of money that they

00:35:29

Raquel Baldelomar

Have. Do you think it's almost like the, is it the more money, more problems concept? Or is it, do you think they're just not generally as at peace?

00:35:37

Gal Aharonov, MD

Well, it's, it's again, as simple minded humans, we fall into basic traps regardless of where we are. And one of the trap traps is comparisons. Right?

00:35:49

Raquel Baldelomar

You're a prolific writer on Instagram. You,

00:35:52

Gal Aharonov, MD

Uh, not recently.

00:35:53

Raquel Baldelomar

Oh, you have, I know. I haven't seen a lot of your Instagram posts. So to those watching though,

00:35:57

Gal Aharonov, MD

That's part of balance, right? . Exactly. So Psalms gotta go,

00:36:00

Raquel Baldelomar

Something's gotta go. It's your Instagram post. But when

00:36:03

Gal Aharonov, MD

Instagram's gotta go,

00:36:04

Raquel Baldelomar

Sorry. But, but when you are, you're prolific and to all of you, what is your Instagram handle? Again, to all of our viewers watching Dr. Ga,

00:36:12

Gal Aharonov, MD

Dr. Gad,

00:36:13

Raquel Baldelomar

Dr. Gahl, md. So you have written some like incredibly thoughtful post about comparison about self-acceptance. But you, uh, let, let's, let's, um, even in just comparison, you say, uh, and I'm just gonna paraphrase this, but you say like, we are wired to make comparisons as is one of the way, main ways we learn and motivate. Society constantly tells us how valuable it is starting from before birth when we are compared to growth and development charts. But unfortunately this is, there is no easier way to judge than through comparing. It is impossible to truly know people's actual motivations level, you know, love or true feelings. So we are left with only being able to judge through comparison. So we can, you know, which is how we perceive our senses. But it can be good, but it can also be bad. And you say that happiness achieved through comparison is also very fragile, leading us to live in a constant state of needing external validation for satisfaction.

00:37:15

Gal Aharonov, MD

Uh, yeah. But I would say it's also impossible to magically liberate ourselves from it. So yeah, it's like, sure, we we're, we have this thing which is our brain's constant need to compare ourselves to stuff and we can't make it go away. So how can we leave live at least somewhat live with it, peacefully with it? And

00:37:37

Raquel Baldelomar

You say, uh, in this pose is catching ourselves when we are comparing good or bad will help us see it for what it is. So just reco having that self-awareness when we are comparing ourselves

00:37:50

Gal Aharonov, MD

Well, it's just one step. Do you say that with anything, if you're, if you're in your own head looking in the mirror and you're finding a bunch of negative things, you, it'd be nice if you caught yourself then mm-hmm. and stopped yourself from doing so. So I mean, we all, that's just how we are. Do we, are we even awareness is one thing, somehow magically stopping ourselves from doing it. That's, that's a much harder thing to do.

00:38:18

Raquel Baldelomar

But when we have like the beauty industry, when we have this celebrity culture, uh, guiding us insane, like, no, this is not what you should be looking. This is, you know, this is what you should be look looking like. I mean, that's a very powerful force that drives us not to, to compare ourselves in a, in a maybe an unhealthy way.

00:38:41

Gal Aharonov, MD

I mean, I think you could look at the beauty industry as just an example of the way this affects all of us in many different aspects of our life. Cuz again, I would say like, you know, what percentage of the population is truly affected by the beauty industry, right? I mean, it's the lucky few that can even afford it or have access to it. Uh, the rest of the world is still suffering from other things. They're not preoccupied with beauty. Uh, but they might be using this part of their brain to negatively affect their, their happiness as well.

00:39:18

Raquel Baldelomar

Do you think that's a problem? I mean, do you think that, you know, the,

00:39:23

Gal Aharonov, MD

I dunno if it's a problem. It's part of life.

00:39:25

Raquel Baldelomar

Yeah.

00:39:26

Gal Aharonov, MD

It's not something new. It's,

00:39:27

Raquel Baldelomar

It's just part of just,

00:39:28

Gal Aharonov, MD

It's part of a thing accepting.

00:39:30

Raquel Baldelomar

And do you think that there are more people who it, I mean this is more accessible to people not just in LA but across many different cities, people who may not be as wealthy. I mean, it, it's, it's, it's, uh, is it possible for someone who maybe is, I mean to, to who's on a, like a middle class, to be able to do small things to make themselves pretty, even like haircuts. I'm not even saying cosmetic treatments, but even like certain things I think it is.

00:40:02

Gal Aharonov, MD

Sure. Don't you remember being a kid and you got like a new pair of shoes or a new shirt and it made you feel like king of the world.

00:40:11

Raquel Baldelomar

Yeah.

00:40:11

Gal Aharonov, MD

Yeah. It's a simple thing. New can always Yeah. Right. That you remember. Like, you know, my son makeup gets

00:40:16

Raquel Baldelomar

A, even makeup

00:40:18

Gal Aharonov, MD

Makes a difference. Anything, yeah. You get a new haircut and somehow you feel like a new person.

00:40:25

Raquel Baldelomar

How do you think an average person can cope with self-acceptance, with the perspective and options that the cosmetic surgery gives them?

00:40:34

Gal Aharonov, MD

Well, it's, I mean, how do we, we, we could just take the power away, right? And we could be like, well, I mean, to me that doesn't matter. Mm-hmm. . But that's an act of choice. Everyone always says like, well, oh, the Kardashians, oh, I hate the Kardashians. Yet they follow 'em on Instagram. Yeah. Right. They give 'em the power. That's the power. The power is attention. So if we give something attention, we're giving it power. If we all effectively decided to, to not have it matter, it would be gone.

00:41:11

Raquel Baldelomar

Yeah. But it's hard. It's hard to, you know, not give away. Not not look at that. I mean, when our, of

00:41:18

Gal Aharonov, MD

Course it's hard because we're comparing ourselves to everyone else constantly. And it's not fair. I always, I always say, I'm like, listen, if I, if I was a baseball player and everybody around me was doing, was doing steroids, and that's how I was making my living at one point I'd probably be like, man, I better start taking some steroids, even if I felt like it was wrong.

00:41:42

Raquel Baldelomar

Do you ever feel like the the plastic surgery industry is, is, is it too much? I mean the, the just the extreme focus and, uh, on just a aggressive beauty treatments and just how constant, like you have to, you know, you have to look this way. Does is it, does it make you feel like, okay, this is just too much. I don't wanna be

00:42:06

Gal Aharonov, MD

Oh, of course. I, I wish it could all just be gone. I wish. But you know, I mean, it's, it won't be gone well, it won't be gone like a lot of things. Again, it's just a, it's just one example. I I, you know, like 50 years ago, someone would get a car and it didn't really matter if it was an expensive car or not. And it would drive that car for 10, 15 years and no one would judge for it. And now we judge people by what they drive, what they wear. And then, you know, it's, it's endless. It's all part of the same problem.

00:42:43

Raquel Baldelomar

Let's talk about aging a little bit. I mean, at 42 years old, I, I've definitely, you know, experiencing what aging, like, what it means to just that, it's just how I looked when I was 20 is very dif is is, you know, different than now at 40. And thanks to you, I, you know, when I come to you twice a year for my own little beauty treatments, I'm grateful that I can afford you and I can, uh, afford to have that. I know not everybody can, but it is something that I think I and many women struggle with is just the how to try to look how we looked when we were younger. Not just not in, we're not talking about comparison to our comp, comparison to other selves, but our own selves.

00:43:27

Gal Aharonov, MD

But that's your reality. Mm-hmm. , right? Some people didn't like how they looked when they were younger. Right. And that's their reality. And there's no different between your way of seeing things or theirs. At the end of the day, it's just wanting to feel good. Right? So how do we feel? Good? It's different. Someone might have been bothered by something their whole life and now they, they can finally afford to change it. And another person loved the way they looked like when they were 20 something and want, wants to stay that way.

00:43:58

Raquel Baldelomar

But we all are aging though. We all are gonna age and

00:44:01

Gal Aharonov, MD

Sure. But some people are doing better than other. And I think there's lots of other ways of taking care of ourselves that don't have to do with like, what I mean eating, right? Mm-hmm. , right? Yeah. Taking care of sleeping. Like all the stuff we've, we've mentioned sleeping.

00:44:16

Raquel Baldelomar

I've always believed that nature may have given you the face you have at 20, but you've earned the face you've had at 40. And part of that is, you know, the sleeping, the eating, the nutrition, because it is does get a lot harder. But if you good at 40, I think you've earned

00:44:33

Gal Aharonov, MD

It. And let's, let's keep in mind that earned it is, it's, it's a, it's a luxury. Mm-hmm. being able to take care of ourselves is, is a luxury that a lot of people don't have in this world. Yeah. It's a form of privilege. Uh, it truly is a form of privilege. And I know people throw around that term pretty loosely now, but it is, it is, uh, luxurious to be able to even think in these terms and take better care of ourselves. And let's look at that as something that that's fortunate, right. That we're lucky to be able to do. And maybe just, just the factor, just the fact that we can sit here and, and talk about it and think about it, that in itself is a luxury. So let's celebrate the fact that we have the capacity to even sit here and, and think about it mm-hmm. as opposed to having to even go through with it. Right.

00:45:27

Raquel Baldelomar

Because it's like, it's, it's the whole h the Maslow's hierarchy of needs. Like, I mean, I think about just people in, you know, these refugees in the Ukraine or people who, you know, are in these third world countries where I grew up, you know, in Bolivia. And you know, people, you know, it's like, you know, some of these families who, you know, people who don't have the opportunities, you know, that we do in America. Like, it's like how they look, these little things about, you know, oh, I have a droopy eyelid, or Oh, I've lost some volume in my face. Like, those things just are not gonna matter. Yeah. It's not on radar. They're not gonna matter when there's like some such other bigger problems. And

00:46:08

Gal Aharonov, MD

Even here, if somebody has a, a true health problem, it's not on their radar. It's true. Yeah. To take care of their face. Yeah. Or body or whatever. They're just wanting to survive. So it's all, this is all luxury. It's all luxurious. And we have to be aware of that and that awareness should lead us to at least be a little bit, hopefully, or just that we have that luxury.

00:46:34

Raquel Baldelomar

Do you think, because you know that, and you, you work in this industry that is, you know, kind of, I mean, it's very vain. It's, I mean, that you, I'm, you work with, it's about that superficial look of how, you know, which, uh,

00:46:45

Gal Aharonov, MD

It's also, let's think, don't you think it's superficial for the guy to, you know, want to have a Lamborghini? It's just a superficial, if you think

00:46:53

Raquel Baldelomar

About it, this is one element. It's one element.

00:46:54

Gal Aharonov, MD

It's an element. It's an element. It's an element, right? It's no different. But

00:46:57

Raquel Baldelomar

Does that, does that, you know, you, you talked about like your dissociation from materialism. Um, do you think that helps dry that? Because you are so much in this industry that is very much about looks and vanity and the superficial, it's like you just need a break from that because it's like just your core self. It's like you're, you're not the traditional plastic surgeon, you know, that most people would think of. You're, you know, so is that, do you feel like you've become even more, almost like less materialistic, more because,

00:47:30

Gal Aharonov, MD

Um, I don't know, because I'll tell you, you wanna, you still wanna be comfortable in this world. And comfort in itself is a, is is something that we compare one person to the other, and honestly, we just get used to something and it's not as comfortable feeling as it was when we first got it. Whether it's a new pillow or a new bed or whatever, that sense of like, oh, this is so much more comfortable mm-hmm. than what I had before. It fades pretty quick. Mm-hmm. . So, I mean, my own personal journey, look, it, it fluctuates. I don't think there's anyone that has like the right answer and they're just moving, always moving in the right direction of becoming a better person or becoming more free or liberated. It's, it's a day-to-day, sometimes moment by moment struggle, depending on all these other feelings that tug at you. So it's, it's like, look, I, I see people suffering, right? And when they come to me, I can't compare myself just to, you know, let's say a cancer specialist who people are coming and they're about to die, potentially. Um, this is different yet weirdly the same. Well cuz suffering is suffering.

00:48:47

Raquel Baldelomar

It is suffering. I mean, I, I had been preparing for this interview, I was reading some of the, your past interviews and you talk about how, um, after your treatments on some of your patients, they would go and they would get a job promotion or one person would, uh, uh, basically left her marriage because, uh, she was being abused by her partner and she just finally stood up to her partner. But it took that treatment to give her the confidence to do that. Yeah.

00:49:16

Gal Aharonov, MD

It really happens a lot.

00:49:18

Raquel Baldelomar

Yeah. So there's a real, I mean, and for me, myself, it's like, it's just, it's giving me the confidence to go and, you know, just fight the world fi you know, you know, just deal with all the challenges I have to deal with in the real world. It's like having feeling attractive is like a, it's, it gives you, it gives me a just an incredible amount of confidence.

00:49:39

Gal Aharonov, MD

Yeah. You know, it's funny though, it's like you don't have to be a surgeon to have that effect on people. Uh, you know, my wife just sent me a, you know, she sends me a little Instagram post and send me a post from Overheard LA where, where, uh, one woman's like, you know, I thought about going into medicine, but I didn't because I already feel like I have a great impact on people's lives. And a person she's talking to, she's like, well, what do you do now? She's like, well, I'm a permanent makeup artist, . And on one hand it's funny, but on the other hand it's true. Yeah. Because we could always, uh, have that effect on people's lives. We don't have to go through, you know, years of training or whatever. We could just have a positive effect on people.

00:50:25

Raquel Baldelomar

Okay. But like, you talk about years of training, which requires hard work. And I mean, you can't just be a surgeon and, you know, to and without just doing it. So I think there is a protective element of it. I mean, anybody, you know, if I'm gonna have ever have surgery of any kind, I would wanna go with somebody who, who is well trained.

00:50:43

Gal Aharonov, MD

Okay? But, alright, this is the way I would say it. Okay. So yes, you go through years of training, but what percent of that training am I actually using right now? Right? Like, have I ever even learned what I'm doing during my training? No, I mean, there's elements that prepare you, right? And, and say, okay, well, having this ability can now prepare me to do this. But in reality, you could just, I could probably train someone to do a certain procedure effectively in probably a few, a few weeks or months without all that training. Imagine being an Olympic athlete and someone telling you, well, you can't be an Olympic athlete until you've mastered every single uh, sport in the Olympics. Right? Only then can you choose an Olympic activity to do Olympic, uh, uh, you know, whatever sport you want to be in.

00:51:41

Raquel Baldelomar

My, one of my previous interviews for the mega podcast was an Olympic athlete. Mm-hmm. . And she, she won the silver medal in the two, 2018 Winter Olympics. And she started, uh, she was always an athlete, but she started training to be an Olympic athlete at 30 years old.

00:51:56

Gal Aharonov, MD

Yeah.

00:51:56

Raquel Baldelomar

And she won it at 33 years old.

00:51:58

Gal Aharonov, MD

So it's funny. So every time I watched Olympics, I say the same thing. I'm like, huh, there's all these random sports. Who knows if I would've applied myself, who knows in what mm-hmm. archery, maybe I would've been a Olympic archer, who knows? But I've never done 99% of those sports.

00:52:18

Raquel Baldelomar

Are there other career choices that you were, that you think about they like, that could have been a really fun to do

00:52:24

Gal Aharonov, MD

Sometimes, but then I'm like, eh, I got a pretty fun, I got a fun gig going. But, uh, like I, it's, I think anything could be fun and anything could be miserable.

00:52:37

Raquel Baldelomar

How are you teaching your children like values, like hard work and discipline? Because I do think across any and any field, those, those like teach those teachings of hard work and discipline is really important.

00:52:51

Gal Aharonov, MD

Listen, I got, it's not like my kids are old and I could somehow reflect back on years and years of being a dad, right? Mm-hmm. . So it's like, well, what am I doing this second? I mean, my first step is to recognize hard work, right? Mm-hmm. like mm-hmm. point out, oh, that was hard work, you know, that's what we should celebrate. Like, not what ended up happening. So I try to

00:53:17

Raquel Baldelomar

Do that, but is I think, is it also through just modeling it, doing it yourself?

00:53:21

Gal Aharonov, MD

Sometimes, but like, I think little kid, look, my kid, right? I mean, he's not even three. And I have to be like, Hey, that was a lot of hard work. That's really impressive that you worked so hard and you focused that hard, right? Mm-hmm. as opposed to like, hey, you got that in the hole, right? So now I'm celebrating the goal, the, uh, the result as opposed to the process. So I tried How much effect is that gonna have? I

00:53:47

Raquel Baldelomar

Don't know. But I think, I mean it's, you said to me once how, um, like you had your son at the office one time when I came to see him. Oh yeah,

00:53:55

Gal Aharonov, MD

Let's try the one, the one time he was there. You were there. Yeah.

00:53:58

Raquel Baldelomar

Yes. And, uh, and you said, did he

00:54:00

Gal Aharonov, MD

Poo in front of you? No, he

00:54:02

Raquel Baldelomar

Did not. P it's funny, that was another patient, .

00:54:05

Gal Aharonov, MD

He was like, I don't think he was even two at the time and brought him in anyway, obviously at the time he's still in diapers. And I remember he's like, uh, in the corner, all of a sudden I look over and he's in a room with a patient. He's like, Eddie, he's pooping poo

00:54:20

Raquel Baldelomar

That is bringing your son to work day. That's, uh, that's a fuel balance. But I thought it was beautiful when you, you said how one day he wanted, he wanted a dress in all gray. Oh yeah. Because I was really touching because he and you, you know, your wife couldn't figure out why he wanted a dress in gray. All, all gray. I was the one figured it out. She's the one and, and she's the one because you're, you're, you're in scrubs is all dark gray and he wanted to be a dressing guard. So, so it's, you're modeling and just through how you're behaving, what you're doing through your own dedication, like you're modeling and it, it's, it's making him want to be like his dad. And it's just, it touches my heart.

00:54:58

Gal Aharonov, MD

Uh, yeah. But who knows how many things I'm screwing up. . , I just hope I'm doing enough good things.

00:55:05

Raquel Baldelomar

Well, well, what you gonna do when your daughter's 15 years old? And she's like, dad,

00:55:09

Gal Aharonov, MD

Oh man, I

00:55:10

Raquel Baldelomar

Already have, I want

00:55:11

Gal Aharonov, MD

St. Tellers. I already wake up in that sweat.

00:55:13

Raquel Baldelomar

I want a, I want a nose job.

00:55:15

Gal Aharonov, MD

. Yeah. I already is.

00:55:17

Raquel Baldelomar

Is that you thinking you've screwed up or just society and all her friends and Instagram and TikTok.

00:55:23

Gal Aharonov, MD

There's only so much I can do. You know, my kid goes to preschool and one day he comes home and he is like, stupid, stupid . I'm like, oh. And you try not to have a strong reaction, right? Because I'm like, man, now you're gonna feed into it. And I'm like, oh, where'd you that word? Oh, little Mikey. Right? So it's like, how much control can we have over everything? They're, we're not gonna protect them from the whole world. They're gonna go to school, they're gonna have friends. And a lot of it is luck. You look at mm-hmm. , successful people, like, honestly, most of them shouldn't be taking credit for their own success because there's tons of people that are busting their ass working real hard, yet just been unlucky. And they haven't ac accomplished much by society's standards of accomplishment today.

00:56:14

Raquel Baldelomar

So you had to work very hard. You know, you,

00:56:18

Gal Aharonov, MD

Uh, so a lot of people worked hard. I don't think I worked exceptionally hard. Don't think compared to a lot of people. No. There's, you know, my nanny works harder than I do.

00:56:28

Raquel Baldelomar

Well, how are you trying to instill those values of hard work for your children? I mean, what are you trying to do? Is that, is that even important to you?

00:56:36

Gal Aharonov, MD

Of Of course. It's important to me. And, uh, I always,

00:56:39

Raquel Baldelomar

Because, because you're privileged, your children are privileged. My children are very privileged. So how

00:56:44

Gal Aharonov, MD

Do, and and already they have things

00:56:47

Raquel Baldelomar

That I Now they have, they have. Exactly. So that's what I'm saying. It's like you, uh, how do you, because it is a, I think it is a challenge because it's, um, how did they grow up? Not to be entitled, not to be entitled and say that,

00:57:00

Gal Aharonov, MD

I don't know. I wish I knew the secret of trying my best, best, but that's my, that's one of my big fears. How do you prepare 'em for that? Mm-hmm. that you can only model so much and do so much. And one day they're gonna be smart enough to be like, Hey, this house is gonna be my house. I mean, you can't keep all that from them unless you blatantly say, well, no, I'm not gonna give you anything. And then for all, you know, that backfires mm-hmm. , because they're like, Hmm, my stupid dad, he has all this much and he doesn't want to gimme anything. Who knows? I don't know. If you know the right answer, please let me know.

00:57:34

Raquel Baldelomar

No, but it is something that I think just recognizing it is, is an important part of it. I mean, because it's, it's when you have, when you're young, and if you wanna believe that, oh, your parents can help, you know, just help, help you. And because they're set, there's, they, they have a financial comfort. You don't have to work as hard. And it's some, and, and I've always, um, for me, I've, I've really just believed that, you know, not having that kind of put that fire in my belly too, to work really hard.

00:58:06

Gal Aharonov, MD

Uh, I don't know what's right. Right. And at the end of the day, it's, I'm gonna be dead, right? Mm-hmm. , at the end of the day, we're gonna be dead. And yes, maybe we leave certain things to them. I've never seen a study showing that the more money you leave a kid, the more they love you, or the higher the more they think about you. Or, I mean, is there such a thing? So I don't know what's right or wrong. You can give them a lot and maybe they do good with it, or maybe they become horrible people and you can give them nothing. And maybe they become horrible people still. That's

00:58:40

Raquel Baldelomar

Where luck comes into, you know, play. Yeah. You know, luck who you, who your, you know, who your children are, just innately, it's so much of it as luck, but I think that's wonderful that they're healthy right now. Yeah. So, um, your Instagram, um, post are not only prolific, but they are very, it has such dark humor. I love, and it really, that dark humor.

00:59:07

Gal Aharonov, MD

I don't think it's dark. You

00:59:09

Raquel Baldelomar

Don't think it's dark , it's dark, but it's h narrative. It's, it's, so, I mean, where do you think that comes from? Cause it is a very, you show the ridiculousness of the, of the plastic surgery industry in just this, a very dark, funny way that speaks to me and a lot of other people.

00:59:28

Gal Aharonov, MD

Like I loved, I've always loved satire, right? I mean, it's, I, I never, as a kid, I never read that much. I mean, now I love to read, but back then I would never read books. Like I never read anything mm-hmm. . And, but I would read satirical things. I'm like, oh, this is real funny. So, I mean, yeah. I think maybe I, I write in a way that I would enjoy reading. Mm-hmm. ,

00:59:56

Raquel Baldelomar

Really. And it's, uh, do you feel like you are, are able to use your position of power as a plastic surgeon to when you post these, just these, these memes that just show the ridiculousness of it? It's, it's, it's the person receiving it, reading it. It's almost like they experience this cognitive dissonance because they don't expect a plastic surgeon to say these things yet. It's so true. And it's, but it just creates this like, cognitive dissonance in their brain that says, like, a plastic surgeon's telling me I'm not gonna be happy by all of these beauty treatments that I do. It's so,

01:00:37

Gal Aharonov, MD

I think it speaks to a very narrow population. You know, maybe I'm glad it speaks to you, but I, I don't think I write it with the intent of it having widespread effects, to be honest.

01:00:50

Raquel Baldelomar

Well, honest. Well, your comments, your comments, you know, have a lot of, I mean, a lot of people comment on it and, and they engage with it.

01:00:56

Gal Aharonov, MD

I, I, yeah. I do it. And I, I say to myself, you know, if I was to die today mm-hmm. and my kids are gonna grow up one day and read the stuff that I wrote, wherever that might be, right. Instagram or, you know, whatever. I wanted to reflect me and I wanted to reflect the way that I feel. And that's as much as I think about it, I hope that people are affected by it and hopefully positively, but I don't know, it might not, might not have that great of an effect.

01:01:29

Raquel Baldelomar

Well, if you're not, if you don't, uh, you know, you, you, you're not gonna continue posting on it. I know that. Uh, it's a balance.

01:01:35

Gal Aharonov, MD

It's time. Right. It's maybe , maybe once my kids start ignoring me a little bit more. And probably any day now, . But alright, I'm back to work. No, I'll work some more.

01:01:45

Raquel Baldelomar

I think. Yeah. You'll start working a lot more. Well, you, speaking of work, like you have, like, you kind of have a limited practice. You have a small private practice. You, you haven't expanded. Your mom works for you. She's, you know. Yeah. What is that dynamic like working with your mom?

01:01:59

Gal Aharonov, MD

Oh, it's good. And it's bad. It's good. I mean, look, I'm very lucky cuz my mom's very experienced. I mean, she was a medical office manager for, you know, decades before.

01:02:10

Raquel Baldelomar

So Faye is wonderful. Yeah. Like, you know, she's, she's wonderful.

01:02:13

Gal Aharonov, MD

And, uh, I'm probably a difficult person to work with. I'm gonna guess. I don't know . So I don't think, uh, so it's good. It's, it's bad because obviously it's a, it's a strange dynamic to be the boss of your mom and, and tell her what to do. And, you know, she's kind of hardheaded herself. Um, but look, I, I'm not a business person. Everyone's like, well how come you haven't expanded? And all that stuff, to be honest, it's just doesn't resonate with me. And I think it's part of just hopefully you know yourself as a person and what you can handle. Um, it's just not something that is my strong suit.

01:02:55

Raquel Baldelomar

And so you've chosen just to keep it small. Your pr hours are limited?

01:03:00

Gal Aharonov, MD

Yeah. I don't like to worry. Look, my hours are limited now, obviously, cuz I have kids and I want to spend time with them. And, you know, the, thankfully the pandemic was, came at the perfect time for me mm-hmm. like to a point where people might question whether or not I was the one who started the pandemic, just to have this

01:03:18

Raquel Baldelomar

So you could have more time with the kids.

01:03:20

Gal Aharonov, MD

Yeah. That was great. And I'm sure, I mean, I'm sure a lot of people feel that way who are in my situation, but, uh, I mean that the, the start of pandemic, you know, you had to, we all took a step back and I decided I'm just gonna focus on this for now. And yeah, maybe that means making less money or, or that, but, um, it's, thankfully I'm in a position again, it's privilege where I can switch back and forth as I, as I would like, where a lot of people don't have that luxury. They had to decide, well, I'm going to spend more time with my kids, which means I have to quit my job. Mm-hmm. , they don't have the luxury of scaling back.

01:04:03

Raquel Baldelomar

You talked about books and how you, like, you, you like now you didn't read a lot of books when you're a kid, but now you read, you like to read books. What would you say are like the, like the three most important books that have changed your life?

01:04:16

Gal Aharonov, MD

Oh man, I don't know. Right now all I read is like, kid books, how to Be Kid Books,

01:04:20

Raquel Baldelomar

, Dr.

01:04:21

Gal Aharonov, MD

Seuss books. It's like, how do I screw up my kid? The least book. Right. Parenting for Dummies. Oh, wow. Uh, how influential books. I know. Really. I like this one book, uh, called The Inner Game of Tennis, Uhhuh , which, uh, was kind of like, how to focus your energies, you know, it's like about tennis, but really it's an analogy. Mental, it's an old book. I forget who wrote it. This is, I read this. I,

01:04:47

Raquel Baldelomar

I heard

01:04:47

Gal Aharonov, MD

About That's good to go. Um, what else has really influenced me? You know, a lot of, you know, meditative type stuff, right? Just like, you know about like, trying to figure out all these motivations that drive us, and not just meditation, but hopefully mindfulness and things like that. That's really been, that's had a great effect on me, I would say over the

01:05:09

Raquel Baldelomar

Years. Do you meditate?

01:05:11

Gal Aharonov, MD

You know, I used to have a standard practice where I would meditate every day. I'd have a set time and sit there. And sometimes I would meditate for like an hour. And now I'm like, man, I, you know, it's hard to, there's no excuse. You should always find time to meditate, but you could always find moments to meditate and

01:05:30

Raquel Baldelomar

You can meditate while you're doing the dishes or you're running your errands.

01:05:33

Gal Aharonov, MD

Yeah. And I think meditation for the most part is kind of like all wrapped up in this whole, you know, this, this new trendy thing that everyone's doing. But really it's just about having some awareness.

01:05:46

Raquel Baldelomar

I feel like it's, I try to do it every morning. Mm-hmm. and for me, it's helped me just connect, uh, the, my intuition, my unconsciousness with my conscious brain. That's how I look at it. Because I think almost like there is more intelligence to your intuition, to your, to your subconscious that you give yourself credit for. And for me, meditation is, is allows me to try to listen to that.

01:06:13

Gal Aharonov, MD

Yeah. I think it's a personal thing. Everyone, uh, maybe gets different things or wants different things from it. Mm-hmm.

01:06:19

Raquel Baldelomar

, um, we're gonna wrap up by asking a few short questions with short answers. Um, my philosophy is that what drives human nature is a combination of sex, money, and power. I know that seems dark, but I guess No, no. Uh, what are the th three things that drive you?

01:06:41

Gal Aharonov, MD

Uh, I mean, I don't want to be, uh, a slave. Alright. So I don't want to be enslaved or indebted. I don't want to be indebted to anything or anyone. Um, and I want to feel like I'm progressing in life, hopefully becoming a better person.

01:07:05

Raquel Baldelomar

What are your top three healthiest habits?

01:07:08

Gal Aharonov, MD

Oh, man. As depends on the week you ask me. ,

01:07:13

Raquel Baldelomar

What your kids are doing.

01:07:14

Gal Aharonov, MD

Well now, let's see. I'm trying, so, oh, I'm, so, you know what's funny? Uh, years ago, uh, I, I broke up with a girl and the main reason I broke up with her is cuz I thought it was annoying that she was, she had a dairy allergy .

01:07:34

Raquel Baldelomar

So your wife does not have a dairy allergy. That

01:07:36

Gal Aharonov, MD

Sounds like, you know, stupid. I was at the time, right. A perfectly great girl. I'm like, oh, that's annoying. We can't split a pizza. . And now I'm like, I don't do gluten, I don't do dairy, I don't do soy. I'm like the most high maintenance person, ,

01:07:52

Raquel Baldelomar

Which is Well, do you feel like that helps too? Do you feel like that not having, you know, not doing gluten and not doing dairy, not doing soy, it actually helps your body, makes you

01:08:00

Gal Aharonov, MD

I don't, I would say this, I think we all should realize, number one, how important what we put in our body is mm-hmm. . And I'm not gonna preach because I put a lot of other crap into my body that I probably could be living a life. But again, it's the part of progressing and the awareness that some things create inflammation in our body. And I'm acutely aware of it just because I do work with my hands. So if I have any inflammation, I feel it. Um, so again, it's awareness. I'm like, okay. To me, if I eat something and I can sense that it's not good for my body, it's, it's very easy for me to make that transition. Be like, well, I'm not gonna have that anymore. Okay. Uh, and try to be actually, you know, actually effective in eliminating that. But

01:08:51

Raquel Baldelomar

It's hard. So, so food is like one element of how you try to be healthy. What would you say are two others?

01:08:56

Gal Aharonov, MD

Um, let me see. I try to, uh, always have some, um, some time where I'm bored. Hmm. You know, I think that some people try to be like always doing something. And for me, I think the most creative I can be is when I don't have to do anything. So that's like a treat for me to be like, even if I take an extra 10 minutes in the shower and just do nothing or, or be like, you know what I'm, I don't have that boredom. I don't, I'm too busy. Well, I'll cut my hours at work a little bit more or, or this or that. So I think that to me is a luxury. That's to, to have some boredom

01:09:41

Raquel Baldelomar

Time. No, I, I think that's a really great way to ma and it helps help your creativity.

01:09:46

Gal Aharonov, MD

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think it's hard to be creative when you're constantly doing something

01:09:50

Raquel Baldelomar

Right. Right. When you all, I mean, if I try to always make sure I, I don't have my calendar, so booked up with everything back to back. Sometimes it's hard between running through businesses.

01:09:59

Gal Aharonov, MD

It's hard. Yeah.

01:10:00

Raquel Baldelomar

But

01:10:01

Gal Aharonov, MD

I, I and some people love being busy all the time. Yeah. My best friend, he's like hates having even a single moment of downtime really. And I'm, I always be like, nah, come on man. Just be bored a little bit. Yeah. It's like, no, that's crazy.

01:10:13

Raquel Baldelomar

What else? Is there anything else that you would say, a third thing that you say that you, that's very healthy for you, that you do?

01:10:19

Gal Aharonov, MD

Um, I love, I love just sitting there with my kids and reading to them. Mm-hmm. , it's, it feels like really healthy for me. Um, I mean, you know, the little things we work out, we do this and that, but that's

01:10:32

Raquel Baldelomar

Great.

01:10:32

Gal Aharonov, MD

Bonding. I mean, it's those to me because every day I do it, I'm like, I don't know if they're gonna want me to read to them after this. They'll be gone. They'll be gone. Just like dot

01:10:45

Raquel Baldelomar

And I think that reading too will instill in them just the love of reading and learning. At least that's what happened with me, with my grandparents and my parents who spread me a lot. That's, that's something that I, I definitely noticed.

01:10:59

Gal Aharonov, MD

I think, uh, kids are also aware when they're getting our full attention and love and, you know, you just want your kids to feel loved. Mm-hmm. , you don't want your kids to grow up wondering if their parents love 'em or if they're a nuisance to their parents or whatever. You want 'em to feel loved.

01:11:16

Raquel Baldelomar

I have a principal that part of balance is having healthy vices. Mm-hmm. things that, uh, are not necessarily good for you, but that you get great joy out of doing. So what are three things? What are your top three vices that bring you great joy?

01:11:32

Gal Aharonov, MD

Oh man. One are my vices. Oh. Have so many .

01:11:35

Raquel Baldelomar

It's hard to know. So that should have been, that should be easier than the healthy

01:11:38

Gal Aharonov, MD

. I watch pro, like now I watch TV more than we should , because I'll tell you, it's like,

01:11:46

Raquel Baldelomar

Are you a binge watcher?

01:11:48

Gal Aharonov, MD

No. No. Cause I like to kind of like slow placer and series, but I'm like, you know, man, after a day where you're like, you just put the kids to sleep and I'll be like, man, I'm just gonna veg in front of this couch watching something. Mm-hmm. . It's probably unhealthy. I shouldn't be doing it. I could be doing something better. Okay. I eat some crap that I shouldn't be eating, that's for sure. You're

01:12:11

Raquel Baldelomar

Not always gluten free or

01:12:13

Gal Aharonov, MD

Dairy? No, I'm always gluten free. No, I'm strict with that. Okay. So, well, I don't play around let's I decide to do something, I'm gonna do it.

01:12:18

Raquel Baldelomar

Okay. So what do you say? What do you consider eating that's not good for you?

01:12:21

Gal Aharonov, MD

Um, i's always crap pizza. It's, it's tons of crap. That's dairy free

01:12:25

Raquel Baldelomar

And gluten-free. Pizza.

01:12:26

Gal Aharonov, MD

Gluten. Oh yeah. I've like three pizzas in my freezer at all time. . Yeah. So food, I mean, other unhealthy things that I do. And I don't know, like, so many things.

01:12:38

Raquel Baldelomar

Okay. You have one more? You have

01:12:40

Gal Aharonov, MD

One more really unhealthy thing. Ugh.

01:12:42

Raquel Baldelomar

It has to bring you great joy though.

01:12:44

Gal Aharonov, MD

It brings me great joy, unhealthy. I, uh, I probably, you know what I do? It doesn't gimme great joy, but I don't know why I do. I should probably stop, but I do it. I'm like reading news all the time. like, ugh. It's like, and it's never like, I don't know what it is, Jay, why did we read so much news? I think that's the one thing we could all probably cut out safely because it's like, I don't remember the last thing I read in the last couple of years where it changed my life one way or another because I read it.

01:13:17

Raquel Baldelomar

Is that the comparison to kind of see, maybe it's the comparison selves of ours. Like we want to compare how we're doing against what everybody else in the world is doing.

01:13:25

Gal Aharonov, MD

Other world. What's the world, what's the world going? What's the, what's happening in the world?

01:13:28

Raquel Baldelomar

All the problems in the world

01:13:30

Gal Aharonov, MD

That get rid of that. I don't know why I do that. That's a waste.

01:13:33

Raquel Baldelomar

Yeah, I know. I definitely, I think, uh, sometimes like I even will like look at just not news, but like Instagram and I'll be like, okay, I've been looking at Instagram way too long. I need to stop looking at it. Cause it's like

01:13:46

Gal Aharonov, MD

Not healthy. Oh yeah. Like I'm on Instagram obviously because of work, I have to have an account, so I have to look at it and stuff and Yeah. It's easy to get sucked in. Yeah. It's horrible. I can't even imagine. Like I'm a reasonably strong-willed, you know, 45 year old man. But, uh, kids, if, if I'm so affected by it, you're so affected by it. If we can get sucked in for 20 minutes.

01:14:10

Raquel Baldelomar

Yeah. What is gonna be your policy with, with, uh, social media, with your kids?

01:14:15

Gal Aharonov, MD

Look, I'm gonna pretend like we're Amish for as long as humanly possible.

01:14:20

Raquel Baldelomar

, it doesn't exist. It does not

01:14:23

Gal Aharonov, MD

Exist. That's my policy. How long can I keep up the charades of

01:14:26

Raquel Baldelomar

Tv? And then now, once they start school, once they start school, they'll be like, dad, why don't I have my own phone?

01:14:31

Gal Aharonov, MD

. Yeah, I know. I don't know what I'll do.

01:14:35

Raquel Baldelomar

Well, this is where instilling all those values, all those strong values, I think will help them. All that reading all those ti all those nights of reading

01:14:41

Gal Aharonov, MD

With them, I'm gonna have to get rid of my phone. Be like, oh no, we don't have any phones. . Hide it under my pillow. We know we're in a safe. It's gonna

01:14:49

Raquel Baldelomar

Make you wanna look at news even more though when you're like, you know, don't have it in front of them. You're like, you'll be looking

01:14:54

Gal Aharonov, MD

At the, oh, I'm pretending to go to a bathroom all the time. , why does dad go to the bathroom all the time? Like, man, just to, there's

01:15:01

Raquel Baldelomar

A lot happening in the world. ,

01:15:03

Gal Aharonov, MD

.

01:15:04

Raquel Baldelomar

What are small things you do every single day to try to achieve balance,

01:15:10

Gal Aharonov, MD

Uh, small things every day? Hmm. I mean, I don't know if I think about it like that, right? It's just like, you either feel like I, I look at my stress level, right? And I'm like, okay, do I feel stressed? Is something's stressing me out? And if there's something that's constantly stressing me out, I'm like, how do I get rid of that? Or how do I change it? Or what can I do to remedy the situation? Um, that's how I look at it. I don't think I, you know, I'm like, man, I don't feel, you know, I'm like, ugh, I'm kind of bored with work this lately. Right? And we all kind of go through that where we're maybe like more into work, less into work more into this lesson to that. So I kind of like just adjust with that. That's how I, I, that's another way I'm treating myself, I guess, to be able to, to change things up to feel less stress.

01:16:04

Raquel Baldelomar

So you're constantly looking at yourself like feeling, like really feeling.

01:16:10

Gal Aharonov, MD

Yeah. How am I feeling?

01:16:10

Raquel Baldelomar

Feeling right now? Feeling and then recalibrating based on how you're feeling.

01:16:14

Gal Aharonov, MD

Yeah. It's like, how am I feeling right now? Is this like just this moment? Is it constant? Do I need this? What's making me feel this way? Do I just need to let go and not feel this way and still do the same thing? Or is it, oh, should I just eliminate this negative thing that is having this effect on me? But really a lot of times if we're having a negative feeling, we should just hopefully just let go of that.

01:16:39

Raquel Baldelomar

What does wealth mean to you?

01:16:42

Gal Aharonov, MD

Um, it means, like I said, lack of, uh, having to do, having to do things, having to, I don't like having a lot of stuff. And I think it's, it's not because I think stuff is bad. It's like, I don't want to like, maintain all this stuff. To me it's a nuisance. Uh, so wealth to me is knowing that I don't have to worry about my children. And, and that's the thing, having children, like changes all that because now it's like, it's not really about me anymore. What do I need? It's like, well, what do my kids need? Right? And who am I to be minimalistic in, in the decisions of my children? Mm-hmm. . Right? I, you don't want to regret not giving your children something that maybe would've been useful for them.

01:17:34

Raquel Baldelomar

We like to leave our viewers with the, what we call a meditation. If you could put any phrase up on a billboard, what would that be?

01:17:42

Gal Aharonov, MD

Oh man. Let me see. Well, let's see. Let's try to summarize what we all talked about. I mean, okay, so I would say this right here, I gotta make it short,

01:17:55

Raquel Baldelomar

Right? Yes. It has to be, it has to fit a billboard, . Okay.

01:17:58

Gal Aharonov, MD

How about everything matters, but nothing matters.

01:18:03

Raquel Baldelomar

Everything matters, but nothing matters.

01:18:06

Gal Aharonov, MD

Yeah. Because everything does matter. If you think about it, every little thing can make a difference positively or negatively. And sometimes we don't know. Mm-hmm. , we don't know what's ultimately positive or negative. It might be positive in the moment, and yet it led to something that's ultimately negative. So everything technically could matter, but then what actually matters? So keep perspective that, you know, while things feel heavy, they shouldn't feel heavy because does it really matter? We don't even know.

01:18:40

Raquel Baldelomar

Hmm. Thank you. Go. Thank you for being here. Is there anything else you would like to leave our viewers with?

01:18:47

Gal Aharonov, MD

No, thank you for having me. That was, how long have we Wow. Wow.

01:18:51

Raquel Baldelomar

We're, yeah, we're about an hour and a half. Yeah.

01:18:53

Gal Aharonov, MD

Where our flies.

01:18:54

Raquel Baldelomar

Where can our viewers find you?

01:18:57

Gal Aharonov, MD

Oh, don't look for me. Don't look

01:18:58

Raquel Baldelomar

For you. . He's cutting back his practice. He has three kids. He's limited.

01:19:02

Gal Aharonov, MD

So I don't like being Yo, I like when you said this was gonna be video as well. I'm like, oh man, I don't, I don't need my face out there. I hate being recognized, honestly.

01:19:11

Raquel Baldelomar

Well, you are gonna be recognized. And, uh, and thank you for being here though. And, uh, to our viewers and listeners on YouTube, thank you for watching. And, uh, if you like this podcast, please click the like and subscribe button. And you can also find us@megapodcast.com. And until next time.

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